Consultation Digest Issue 12, the full version, 26 June 2018, Community Activity around Kelvinhall and proposed buildouts and speed cushions impeding cycling near Glasgow Green

We now have the first traffic regulation order for the proposals put forward by Yorkhill and Kelvingrove Community Council. This is a very pro-active community council, working hard to improve the area and keep residents informed (see 1.6). This is also your last chance to comment on the notorious Byres Road proposals, so please read on.

The unplanned preview on Sunday of this Digest gave you a taste of what was to come, but review and completion have introduced changes from item 1.3 onwards, so there’s more for you to read – and take action on.


Section 1: Current Consultations

  1. Byres Road, Glasgow, closes tomorrow, 27 June
  2. Greendyke Street, traffic calming, closes 29 June
  3. Argyle Street Avenue, closes 13 July
  4. Woodside Parking and cycle access, closes 13 July
  5. Connecting Woodside, closes 17 July
  6. Bunhouse Road and Benalder Street, new cycle lanes, closes 27 July

Section 2: Forthcoming Consultations

Empty section this time, but there will be more in the pipeline for Argyle Street, Woodside and around Yorkhill and Kelvingrove.

Section 3: Consultation Feedback

  1. Collegelands Barras Meatmarket: the GoBike submission
  2. Yoker to Knightswood Cycle Route: the GCC reply
  3. Hyndland, Hughenden and Dowanhill parking: the GoBike submission


Current Consultations – in date order for responses

1.1 Byres Road, Glasgow, closes tomorrow, 27 June

Here’s the link for anyone who hasn’t yet responded to these appalling plans to change the look of Byres Road yet not improve the cycling environment: We have more info here on our response.

1.2 Greendyke Street, Glasgow, traffic calming, closes this Friday, 29 June

All the details were in the last Digest (see: Digest 11 ) and our letter of objection is here: GoBike Greendyke Street Traffic Calming 210617.  We don’t consider that buildouts, which push bikes out into the centre of the road, and speed cushions are the way to provide a good cycling environment.

1.3 **NEW** Argyle Street Avenue, Glasgow, current on-line consultation closes 13 July

If you saw our recent Consultation Extra, you will be aware that there has been some on-street consultation recently for the outline proposals for the Argyle Street Avenue, from Anderston Cross right through to Trongate and Glasgow Cross. West of Glasgow Central Station, it is proposed that the current four traffic lanes are reduced to two, with a one-way cycle lane each side, and there is a similar arrangement proposed for Trongate. There will be little change under the Hielanman’s Umbrella, but there is the possibility of buses being introduced, travelling east only to the current “pedestrian” precinct (it’s a core path, so cycling is allowed). This has been advocated to reduce pollution from the braking and acceleration required to turn 4 corners, ie into Queen Street, into Ingram Street, into Glassford Street and finally back into Trongate, as well as by disability groups because of the current distance to bus stops and by some of the retailers.

There have been some rather scathing comments on-line about the introduction of vegetation; this is not simply to look nice but it serves a very useful purpose by providing drainage  Trees are proposed where there is room for roots, much smaller plants where Argyle Street is directly about the low-level train lines.

There’s a very simple on-line consultation survey on the City Council website:  Please do support this – stakeholder consultation is now starting, and at one event with at least two local Community Councils represented the whole ethos was about getting people walking, cycling or using public transport to get about the city, rather than the private car.

1.4 Glasgow Woodside Parking Controls, closes 13 July

We told you about these proposals last time (see: Digest 11 ) and we will be replying with approval. We know that many residents across the city are plagued by random, uncontrolled parking, and steps need to be taken to control it. Parked cars are taking up the space where our cycle lanes should be.

We are also pleased that cycling will be maintained on North Woodside Road, and we are looking forward to the proposals for Connecting Woodside (see 1.5).

1.5 **NEW** Connecting Woodside, Consultation Event today, on-line consultation closes 17 July

Our recent Consultation Extra gave details of the Consultation Event to be held today, at Woodside Library, St George’s Road, from 3:30 – 7pm. The current proposals are more extensive than those we saw last year and actually now include a connecting cycle route along St George’s Road from St George’s Cross to Sauchiehall Street. With this consultation we are delighted to see some joined-up thinking on linking up our routes.

The text of the e-mail we received from Glasgow City Council on 19 June reads:

Good day

You may be aware of Glasgow City Council’s bid for funding to Transport Scotland’s Community Links Plus competition with the Woodside Mini Holland bid. The competition was seeking exemplar projects that promote walking, cycling and public space.  

Glasgow City Council submitted the project bid last year and were up against 37 other national bids. Woodside Mini-Holland was announced as a winner in November 2017. The project is now known as ‘Connecting Woodside’.

To follow up consultation undertaken throughout the last year GCC and Sustrans will be holding a public walk-in engagement event with a supplementary online consultation to gather further comments on specific sections of the project.

The public engagement event will focus on specific sections of the project; mainly:

  • Garscube Road
  • North Woodside Road crossing at Maryhill Road

We are proposing a number of changes to improve the environment for cyclists, pedestrians, local residents and businesses. New designs could see the implementation of:

  • New pedestrian crossings
  • Segregated cycle lanes
  • Reallocation of road space.
  • Junction redesign at Garscube Road / Possil Rd Cross and Garscube Rd/Firhill
  • Crossing reallocation and public space treatment on North Woodside Road at Maryhill Road

A public drop in session will be held on:

Tuesday 26th June


Woodside Library, St. George’s Road

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Information and an online survey will be available from the 19th June for a period of 4 weeks. The online consultation tool will be available at: Please enter as many comments on the map as you would like e.g.  ‘I would like a crossing here as it is difficult to cross’.The website will remain open for comments, however the closing date for consultation responses will be the 17th July.

Consultation materials for project can be found here: ”

1.6 **NEW** Bunhouse Road, segregated cycle lane, closes 27 July



This proposed Traffic Regulation order covers not just the replacement of the current shared footway cycle route outside Kelvinhall but introduces a new one on Benalder Street.



It has come about through the efforts, as we said in the introduction, of Yorkhill and Kelvingrove Community Council, to improve their area and let their residents walk, cycle, and enjoy their locality.

Here is the text of the e-mail that we received from Glasgow City Council on 15 June:


The Glasgow City Council (Bunhouse Road) Order 201_

Further to my consultation of 11th May 2018 and in accordance with statutory procedures, I now enclose a copy of proposed order and plan showing the extent of the order.

The proposals are as follows: 

  1. Removal of metered parking on Bunhouse Road and extending ‘No waiting, no loading at any time’ restrictions on the West kerbline.
  2. Relocation of disabled parking on Bunhouse Road from West to East kerbline.
  3. Proposed segregated two-way cycleway on West footway of Bunhouse Road.
  4. Proposed two-way cycleway along east kerbline of Benalder Street at carriageway level.

Any person wishing to object to the proposed Order should send details of the grounds for their objection either in writing to Land and Environmental Services, Glasgow City Council, 231 George Street, Glasgow G1 1RX by Friday 27th July 2018 or by email to  Objections should state the name and address of the objector, the matters to which they relate and the grounds on which the objection is made.”

The documents they provided are: NoticeOfProposals-BunhouseRoad-190x85mm-RTO  KATR_Report_June2018  5116-SK003 Bunhouse Road Proposed TRO Sheet 1 of 2  5116-SK004 Bunhouse Road Proposed TRO Sheet 2 of 2  Statement of Reasons

Before we reply, we have asked the following questions of the City Council:

  1. Bunhouse Road: at the northern end, what are the crossing arrangements at Dumbarton Road?  It looks as if cycles will be separated from the current pedestrian and cycle crossing, with less potential for confusion but will the 2 crossings work in unison, will there be traffic lights etc?
  2. Benalder Street: it looks from the drawing as if the 2-way route on Benalder Street will be segregated from the car lanes but this is not confirmed in the information provided.  Could you clarify please?
  3. Ferry Road and Old Dumbarton Road: is this a new 2-way cycle route on the east/south side of these 2 streets and, if so, will this be the subject of a forthcoming TRO?

We will, hopefully, be able to publish the reply and our response to these proposals in the next Digest.

Section 2. Forthcoming Consultations

There are none at the moment that we are aware but we look forward to more detailed consultation on Connecting Woodside and the Argyle Street Avenue project.

Section 3: Consultation Feedback

3.1 Collegelands/Calton Barras Meatmarket redevelopment

This was covered in our last Digest (Digest 11) and we sent our response in on 15 June. We were disappointed that a cycle route was only added after a consultation event and would like to see Glasgow City Council being more active-travel-minded throughout. Here’s our letter: GoBike Calton Barras Meatmarket comment 150618

3.2 Yoker to Knightswood cycle way

In our last Digest (Digest 11) we copied the e-mail sent to Glasgow City Council expressing concern about cars parking over the “buffer zone” on part of this route leading to the new BMX track in Knightswood Park, and a very uneven and not very dropped kerb at one location. We have now had a response from Andrew Brown, head of the cycle team:


Dear Ms Fort.

Many thanks for your email with regards the cycle facilities within Knightswood.

As you note there is still a significant amount of works to be completed as part of this project. With regards to your concerns regarding the kerbs where the cycle lanes join the shared surface I will have an inspector view these to assess the installation. However I would note that these kerbs will not be installed flush to the carriageway but will have a 5-10mm upstand to prevent water ponding at the transition.

With regards to vehicles parking partly on the footway, I would note that this section of works is not complete and additional lining and signing is still to be installed. This will hopefully reduce the level of parking, however once the job is complete monitoring will take place to assess if any further action is required.

I trust this information is of assistance.”

3.3 Hyndland, Hughenden and Dowanhill East, Traffic Management and Parking Controls TRO

The details of this TRO were given in Digest 10 (Digest 10) and introduce parking controls in this residential area, which has been suffering from displaced parking from surrounding areas where parking controls were introduced some time ago. The TRO doesn’t do much for cycling but there is to be some contraflow cycling, allowing some permeability. Comments closed yesterday and here’s our response: GoBike Hyndland Hughenden & Dowanhill West comments 250618




Why doesn’t Glasgow City Council go for a city-wide 20mph default speed limit – yet another isolated zone is proposed.

Yes, it’s time for some blue sky thinking in Glasgow.  We have been sent a raft of proposals to install speed cushions in 20mph zones across the city, and here’s our response to the first one: GoBike Carmunnock Road traffic calming objection 251017 and the text is below.  We recognise that it is counter-intuitive to some to object to traffic calming but please read our arguments:

“THE Glasgow City Council (CARMUNNOCK ROAD) TRAFFIC CALMING SCHEME Order 201_ Objection

Thank you for your e-mail of 06 October and the opportunity to comment on this proposal.

GoBike! objects to this proposed Traffic Calming scheme on Carmunnock Road 20mph. We are, as you know, fully supportive of 20mph speed limits in residential, shopping and education areas, but we cannot support the current approach.

We object to this order on the following grounds:

  1. As currently specified neither the written description nor the plan drawing indicate the limits of the proposed 20mph zone. The Council must make clear and publicise the extent of the proposed 20mph zone and until this is done GoBike will maintain its objection. To be clear, where will the 20mph signs be located?

  2. Without a clear definition of the extent of the proposed 20mph Traffic Calming Scheme it is impossible to comment as to whether the proposed installation of speed cushions will likely achieve the desired reduction in traffic speed.

  3. GoBike also notes that the proposed Traffic Calming scheme is deficient as there is no discussion as to the reason for placing 3 sets of speed cushions on a seemingly arbitrary section of arterial road. It begs the question, is this truly the full extent of road section where there is a speeding issue? This is exceptionally unlikely and GoBike take the view that the budget to be spent on installing speed cushions over a very small area would be far better spent on creating a much larger 20mph zone through the installation of signage only. In this event we would ask the Council to simultaneously liaise with the Police to educate drivers that 20mph zones are created for a very good reason, ie to prevent injury and death as your proposal indicates.

  4. As far as can be determined from the very limited data in the proposed Traffic Calming scheme, no allowance has been made for cycle traffic. GoBike notes that the section of Carmunnock Road where the speed cushions are proposed to be sited is well-used by cyclists, see: Whilst the drawing CATHCART_001 is marked as not-to-scale, Carmunnock Road near the site of the proposed speed cushions is understood to be about 12m wide. The positioning of 4 speed cushions across the carriageway suggests that cyclists will therefore be forced to cycle in the gutter if they are to avoid cycling over a speed cushion. Bicycles are as much traffic as are motor vehicles and GoBike considers the proposed scheme deficient on the grounds that no allowance has been made for cycles.

  5. As a constructive alternative proposal, GoBike consider a far better way to reduce vehicle speeds, over a longer section of road, would be to narrow the road by installing a cycle lane on each side using one of the methods, such as armadillos, as installed in the City Council’s trial area on Aikenhead Road. Armadillos, and similar, are cheaper and less invasive to install and far cheaper to maintain than speed bumps or cushions. Reducing the width available to motor vehicles would naturally reduce their speed and such a scheme would have the added benefit of encouraging active travel.

As a final statement, GoBike consider that the money allocated to this scheme, one of many in the city, would be better spent on a city wide scheme. In our view, and as was agreed by the City Council’s Petitions Committee in spring 2015, a city-wide default speed limit of 20mph should be introduced, with exemptions then being made for the main arterial routes into the city. The current piecemeal system is expensive and very confusing for the road user. The national climate is towards the spirit of Mark Ruskell, MSP’s bill to the Scottish Parliament, with an urban default speed limit of 20mph, and Glasgow should be leading the way in this.

Yours sincerely,

Convenor, GoBike!”

and here is Glasgow City Council’s proposal:




Dear Sir / Madam




The Council propose to consider the introduction of the above named Traffic Calming Scheme and I wish to establish the views of your organisation.

Background to the proposed Scheme

Glasgow City Council are currently in the process of implementing Mandatory 20mph Speed Limit Zones throughout the City.

The purpose of the Mandatory 20mph Speed Limit Zone is to ensure that vehicle users reduce their speeds to 20mph or less, and therefore improve road safety for pedestrians, cyclists and all other vehicle users.  By turn, it is anticipated that this will encourage more people to walk and cycle, which would have associated health benefits.

Furthermore, a report by Department for Transport (DfT), titled, ‘Relationship between Speed and Risk of Fatal Injury: Pedestrians and Car Occupants’, notes the following benefits:

–     If someone is hit by a car at 40 mph they are 30% likely to be killed.

–     If someone is hit by a car at 30 mph they are 7% likely to be killed.

–     If someone is hit by a car at 20 mph they are 1% likely to be killed.

The Council installed two speed tables on Carmunnock Road however; following feedback from local residents, the speed table located east of Madison Avenue has since been removed.  In order to encourage low vehicle speeds, the council propose to install three sets of speed cushions between Nos.140 – 178 Carmunnock Road.

Roads affected by the proposed Scheme

The list of roads affected by these proposals are:-

  • Carmunnock Road

Details of the proposed Scheme

The proposed Scheme (as depicted on the attached plans) will comprise of:-

  1. The installation of 4 speed cushions at a point approximately 15 metres east of the extended east kerbline of Crompton Avenue (approximately 2m in width, 3m in length and 75mm in height).
  2. The installation of 4 speed cushions at a point approximately 5 metres east of the extended east kerbline of Madison Avenue (approximately 2m in width, 3m in length and 75mm in height).
  3. The installation of 4 speed cushions at a point approximately 5 metres east of the extended east kerbline of Fairfax Avenue (approximately 2m in width, 3m in length and 75mm in height).

Please provide any comments you wish to make on these proposals within 21 days (reply by 27 October 2017).

In the meantime, should you require any further information or clarification on any points arising from the proposals, do not hesitate to contact my officer John Telfer on 0141 287 3723 .

Should the Council proceed with these proposals; I will write to you again and confirm this.

Yours faithfully

Andy Waddell

Head of Infrastructure and Environment

Land and Environmental Services  Carmunnock Road – Traffic Calming_001 (Publication)

If you agree with our view, or even if you support the City Council with this one, do write in and let them know; the e-mall address to write to is but please do this by Friday 27 October.

Rules changes proposed to reduce the rights of citizens to use Glasgow parks!

Tweed Ride 2013
Tweed Ride 2013
Rides through Glasgow parks like this one would need prior consent under the proposed rules.

Glasgow City Council is proposing new rules for the management of parks, see: – and note that “park” has a wide meaning and includes George Square in the city centre.  2 of the rules, in particular, are of interest to cyclists.

Clause 1.4 of the proposed rules refers to  an “Unauthorised Gathering”  which means any gathering, meeting or assembly in a park of 20 or more people, which has not had the prior written consent of the Executive Director of Land and Environmental Services, however it was organised.
This has implications for any group, not only of cyclists, who assemble in an area deemed to be a park, prior to setting off on a cycle ride, or something such as a trip to an art gallery.  For example, cyclists from Glasgow arranged to meet in George Square last year prior to cycling to Edinburgh for the Pedal on Parliament event.  Go Bike, since it achieved the right for cyclists to cycle through the city parks some 25 years ago, has led several rides through parks, the latest being on Sunday 05 January, when 30 of us did an excellent cycle tour of the parks on the southside of the city.  We stopped several times to regroup and, finally, we admired the view once we had all made it to the high point, the flag pole, in Queen’s Park.  30 of us “gathering” together in this way – without the prior consent of the Executive Director of Land and Environmental Services – could thus be considered to be “unauthorised“.

Clause 7.2, second sentence of the proposals states that “Cycle speed should not exceed 5 miles per hour.”  Anyone who has tried cycling alongside a pedestrian will know that it is very unstable to cycle at such low speeds; even children, or adults, learning to cycle will be going at speeds above 5mph – if only to try and keep their balance.  The average “moving speed” of the Go Bike ride through the parks last month was 7.6 miles per hour, with a maximum of 16.3 mph.  A limit of 5mph, if and when enforced, would thus remove our hard-won right to cycle in parks and other parts of the city covered by these new rules.

Go Bike proposes that, if the City Council wishes to ban some types of “Unauthorised Gathering” then they should be specific about the type of behaviour they wish to ban.  A blanket ban covers not only cyclists but a group of families meeting together.
Most cyclists cycle at speeds appropriate to their surroundings so the second sentence of Clause 7.2 quoted above should be removed leaving the clause as: “Cyclists must maintain proper control of the cycle and ensure they do not endanger other road users.”  Those who don’t would be in contravention of Clause 2.1 “No one shall in any park: (c) commit any act of anti-social behaviour in any park,”

Thus, there is a plethora of rules drawn up to cover almost any eventuality.  The Council would do far better to employ park wardens to look after and maintain these “dear, green places” in our city.

If you have read the proposed rules, at and agree with Go Bike, then please submit your views by e-mail to to arrive by Friday 14 February at the latest